HeruSwnAmun
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Reged: 11/02/04
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Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
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I'm still a newbie, so I get a little slack here ~chuckles~
What are the differences between Kemetic Orthodox and Kemetic Traditional religions?
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KheperaAkasha
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Reged: 08/21/02
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Loc: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
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Em Hotep HeruSwnAmun
*bows*
Good question. I can cover a couple of the basic differences that I know of.
Firstly, Kemetic Orthodoxy has a Nisut (the position held by the Pharoah in ancient times, who was aligned with Heru as the ruler of Kemet and considered divine), whereas Per Ankh's person of the most responsiblity is that of our Heri Tep Hem Netjer (the position of the Highest Priest in Kemet who could perform rites in the Nisut's stead when necessary and was/is responsible for the spiritual needs of the people as a priority, but was not considered divine).
Secondly, KO has a practice of 'divining Parents' (which overrides a persons *natural* relationship/affinity to a particular Netjer and tells the person Who they are to serve and have a relationship with), whereas KTR has no such divining. As far as we can see from egyptological research this was not a practice of the ancients.
Senebty
michelle
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HeruSwnAmun
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Ahhh, so Per Ankh is more KTR and of course Kemet.org is KO.
I feel as though Per Ankh may be more to my way of thinking then.
Ok, foolish question # 2, I know that Per Ankh is a sisterhood of temples. Are there many guys in Per Ankh and are there any plans to build Temples closer to the East coast? (I live in Atlanta, Georgia)
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AnkhesenAset
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Em Hotep, HeruSwnAmun and welcome to the boards.
I don't think that Per Ankh being a sisterhood of temples is really supposed to state that members are mostly female. I think it's just more a term for the collectivness, and interconnectedness of the temples that are affiliated with each other. I know of a few men here.
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May Ma'at guide and Aset protect you,
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WabAndy
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Loc: New Hampshire
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Hotep
*bow*
A couple of thoughts that may be usefull clarification...
Per Ankh is the temple which hosts KOL and we practice Kemetic Traditional Religion.
netjer.org is the site for the House of Netjer, a totaly different temple that practices Kemetic Orthodox - and in adition to the differences which Khep talked about - which are some of the bigest in practice - I think it's also worth mentioning that the theology and thought process is quite different. To my mind, what truley defines a temple (or any other organisation) is the way of looking at the world - the worldview - that it asks it's members to take on. Per Ankh does this very directley, in that in our classes we are asking you directley to try on the KTR world view.... which is a very long winded way of geting to saying that Per Ankh and HON have VERY different world views - I'm not going to try to go into spisifics - but it's something that's imortant to keep in mind...
Regarding the Sisterhood of Temples - right now Per Ankh only has one temple - the main temple Per Sekhmet - which is housed at the home of Rev Sedgwick and Rev Renee - so as you can imagine, with members all over the world, physicaly going to the temple is not a primary part of our practice - though there certaly are open retreats, and arangements can be made for private work with the Revs as well. but in the long run, yes we hope to have many more temples in many locations - for instance, I'm in New Hampshire.
As to guys in the temple - there are quite a few - I don't know the exact number, but we are around...
Take care,
Andy
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Andy Dolph, Wab Priest Aset-Hethert
Per Ankh The Traditional Reigion of Ancient Egypt
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HeruSwnAmun
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Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
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Em Hotep Andy,
~bows right back~
I'd agree with you in that:
"what truly defines a temple (or any other organisation) is the way of looking at the world - the worldview - that it asks it's members to take on."
However being a newbie and not knowing the specifics, it's hard to make any decisions.
From what I've heard I think I would have to lean toward the KTR way of thinking, is there anyway you could share those world views? You could email me privately if you want.
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WabAndy
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Quote:
From what I've heard I think I would have to lean toward the KTR way of thinking, is there anyway you could share those world views? You could email me privately if you want.
take a look at this:
16 principles
that's a good place to start. this isn't something one comes to understand in a day or two... so in that sense it's not something that I can share in a simple way... developing in this faith (including training for the priesthood) is mostly about learning to live the KTR worldview more and more fully.
I feel like I'm not speeking clearley, I'm very tired so I'm going to stop now... but please feel free to ask questions either on the boards or privatley.
Andy
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Andy Dolph, Wab Priest Aset-Hethert
Per Ankh The Traditional Reigion of Ancient Egypt
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HeruSwnAmun
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Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
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Oh I have, in fact I've printed it out.
I feel it's the most inspiring document I've ever come across. (Rev Renee should be proud)
I guess what I'm saying is I don't know what to compare it too. Doesn't KO think that way too?
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MeritAset
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Loc: NSW, Australia
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Em Hotep *henu*
I'm a KO'er so let me explain the differences as I perceove them.
The 16 Priniciples are almost identical to what we believe. However in KO, we have our Nisut-Bityt whom we believe to be the 196th Pharaoh as she underwent a coronation ceremony in Egypt on 6th Nov 1996. We consider her to be our "spiritual leader" and head honcho of the Temple and our faith. Also training to be a priest or W'ab of a Name is something that is not open to everyone. There is a lot more structural hierachy I've found. It's not to everyone's taste which is understandable.
But the belefts in Netjer and worship are the same.
Senebty,
MeritAset
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Isian
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Loc: NSW, Australia
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Em Hotep, MeritAset~bow~ 
You said...
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The 16 Priniciples are almost identical to what we believe.
Putting the emphasis on 'almost', would you feel adept enough to speak about the difference between KO and KTR on this point? 
~hug~
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